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(An earlier forum on related subjects was Forum:Migrants/immigrants/emigrants - including those who stopped over on the way.)

Template:RootsEdit

The new template {{roots}} creates a record of the country of birth of self and all ancestors. It puts this on subpage /roots. See Nicolaas Simon Korver (1856-1922)/roots. If people are content with this, it could move to the sensor page. However, if we want to display information on villages etc; or an ancestry share per country (NS Korver is 75% Dutch and 25% German), we need to keep a separate page for reasons of size and performance. rtol 08:43, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Categorization of migrationEdit

I noted that people manually categorize "Migrants from A to B". With SMW, this can be automated:

{{#ifeq: {{getfact|birth nation}} | {{getfact|death nation}} | | [[Category:Migrants from {{getfact|birth nation}} to {{getfact|death nation}}]] }}

rtol 08:43, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
We also (since some time after 2010) have {{Category Migrants from country to country}}, which makes manual work easier and covers more cases, including those where the nation field is not filled in but is obvious from the nation subdiv1 or even county. It may even be able to cover state-to-state migration, where we have numerous categories already - familypedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=Migrants+from. See its own talk page. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 23:43, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

Categorization of ancestry placesEdit

I noted that people manually categorize "Ancestry from A". This can be automated too.

Let me know if this is worth my while; and whether other things can be simplified. rtol 08:43, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes! I would love to see this automated. Lanica 17:58, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Properties rather than categoriesEdit

Migrants from A to B is easy. See {{CatMigration}} and Migrants from Germany to Netherlands.
"Ancestry from" is easy with properties, very hard with categories. Unless people protest, I'll go with properties. rtol 15:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The template is now {{Migration}} and it is part of {{showfacts biography}}. A number of you are testing. Please report back if strange things happen. rtol 21:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The templates now also pick up the nation from the locality. rtol 20:21, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Note that "Migrants from A to B" only works if both country A and country B have a page.

Note that "the" is dropped: "Migrants from USA to Gambia" rather that "Migrants from THE USA to THE Gambia". rtol 18:18, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

We could easily fix the template to put the article in, if we had a property on the country page. Thurstan 21:10, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Let's try that. rtol 05:13, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
Done: please test. Thurstan 06:58, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
Tested. My great-grandma now moved to THE Netherlands. rtol 07:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Demo: Ancestry from ByzantiumEdit

{{#ask: [[Ancestry::Byzantium]]|?father|?mother|?ancestry}} returns

 FatherMotherAncestry
Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden (1946-)Gustav Adolf of Sweden (1906-1947)Sibylla von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (1908-1972)Sweden
Germany
United Kingdom
Denmark
Poland
France
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Italy
Russia
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Switzerland
Geneva
Ukraine
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Gustav Adolf of Sweden (1906-1947)Gustav VI Adolf of Sweden (1882-1973)Margaret of Connaught (1882-1920)Sweden
Germany
United Kingdom
Italy
France
Russia
Poland
Spain
Denmark
Scotland
England
Belgium
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Switzerland
Ukraine
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Ingrid of Sweden (1910-2000)Gustav VI Adolf of Sweden (1882-1973)Margaret of Connaught (1882-1920)Sweden
Germany
United Kingdom
Italy
France
Russia
Poland
Spain
Denmark
Scotland
England
Belgium
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Switzerland
Ukraine
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Märtha of Sweden (1901-1954)O. Carl W. of Sweden (1861-1951)Ingeborg of Denmark (1878-1958)Sweden
Russia
Germany
Denmark
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Italy
Spain
Scotland
England
Belgium
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Belarus
Ukraine
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantium
Geneva
Israel
Ireland
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Gustav VI Adolf of Sweden (1882-1973)Gustav V of Sweden (1858-1950)Viktoria von Baden (1862-1930)Germany
Sweden
Italy
France
Russia
Poland
United Kingdom
Spain
Denmark
Scotland
England
Belgium
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Switzerland
Ukraine
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Victoria of Sweden (1977-)Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden (1946-)Silvia Renate Sommerlath (1943-)Sweden
Germany
United Kingdom
Denmark
Poland
France
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Italy
Russia
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Switzerland
Geneva
Ukraine
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
May Helen Emma Cambridge (1906-1994)Alexander Cambridge, 1st Earl of Athlone (1874-1957)Alice of Albany (1883-1981)United Kingdom
Croatia
Germany
Romania
Sweden
France
Spain
Denmark
England
Belgium
Netherlands
Belarus
Russia
Ukraine
Poland
Austria
Czech Republic
Hungary
Switzerland
Lithuania
Italy
Bohemia
Portugal
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Latvia
Israel
Ireland
Scotland
Turkey
David William Donald Cameron (1966)Ian Donald Cameron (1932-2010)Mary Fleur Mount (1934)United Kingdom
China
United States
Ireland
Germany
Denmark
Scotland
England
France
Belgium
Spain
Sweden
Netherlands
Russia
Ukraine
Portugal
Czech Republic
Hungary
Poland
Austria
Belarus
Lithuania
Bohemia
Byzantium
Israel
Switzerland
Italy
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Felipe de España (1968-)Juan Carlos I de España (1938-)Sophia of Greece (1938-)Italy
Greece
United Kingdom
Spain
Germany
France
Belgium
Russia
Ukraine
Austria
Sweden
Denmark
Poland
Scotland
England
Hungary
Portugal
Netherlands
Czech Republic
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Byzantium
Bohemia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Latvia
Geneva
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Juan Carlos I de España (1938-)Juan de España (1913-1993)María Mercedes di Borbone Due Sicilie (1910-2000)United Kingdom
Spain
Italy
Germany
France
Belgium
Russia
Ukraine
Austria
Sweden
Denmark
Scotland
England
Hungary
Portugal
Poland
Netherlands
Czechoslovakia
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Byzantium
Bohemia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Latvia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Alexander Frederick Douglas-Home, Baron Home of the Hirsel (1903-1995)Charles Cospatrick Archibald Douglas-Home, 13th Earl of Home (1873-1951)Lillian Lambton (1881-1966)United Kingdom
India
Ireland
Netherlands
France
Denmark
Scotland
England
Germany
Belgium
Spain
Italy
Russia
Ukraine
Czechoslovakia
Israel
Portugal
Hungary
Austria
Poland
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Barbados
Turkey
Greece
Sarah Margaret Ferguson (1959-)Ronald Ivor Ferguson (1931-2003)Susan Mary Wright (1937-1998)United Kingdom
France
England
Germany
Russia
Ukraine
Israel
Spain
Portugal
Netherlands
Belgium
Denmark
Scotland
Italy
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
Austria
Poland
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Ireland
Barbados
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Albert II of Monaco (1958-)Rainier III of Monaco (1923-2005)Grace Kelly (1929-1982)Algeria
Germany
United Kingdom
Netherlands
Latvia
France
Russia
Denmark
Czech Republic
Spain
Hungary
Belgium
Sweden
Belarus
Ukraine
Poland
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Portugal
Switzerland
Byzantium
Italy
Slovakia
Slovenia
Scotland
England
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Charlotte of Monaco (1898-1977)Louis II of Monaco (1870-1949)Marie Juliette Louvet (1867-1930)Germany
United Kingdom
Netherlands
Latvia
France
Russia
Denmark
Czech Republic
Spain
Hungary
Belgium
Sweden
Belarus
Ukraine
Poland
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Portugal
Switzerland
Byzantium
Italy
Slovakia
Slovenia
Scotland
England
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Rainier III of Monaco (1923-2005)Pierre de Polignac (1895-1964)Charlotte of Monaco (1898-1977)Algeria
Germany
United Kingdom
Netherlands
Latvia
France
Russia
Denmark
Czech Republic
Spain
Hungary
Belgium
Sweden
Belarus
Ukraine
Poland
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Portugal
Switzerland
Byzantium
Italy
Slovakia
Slovenia
Scotland
England
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Karl I. von Österreich (1887-1922)Otto Franz Joseph von Österreich (1865-1904)Maria Josepha Luise von Sachsen (1867-1944)Austria
Italy
Spain
Germany
France
United Kingdom
Belgium
Russia
Ukraine
Hungary
Portugal
Denmark
Scotland
England
Poland
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Byzantium
Bohemia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Sweden
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Georg Friedrich von Preußen (1976-)Louis Ferdinand von Preußen (1944-1977)Donata zu Castell-Rüdenhausen (1950-)Germany
Malta
United Kingdom
Poland
Denmark
France
Sweden
Russia
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Czech Republic
Hungary
Latvia
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Italy
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Louis Ferdinand von Preußen (1944-1977)Louis Ferdinand von Preußen (1907-1994)Kira of Russia (1909-1967)Germany
Malta
United Kingdom
Poland
Denmark
France
Sweden
Russia
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Czech Republic
Hungary
Latvia
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Italy
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Louis Ferdinand von Preußen (1907-1994)Wilhelm von Preußen (1882-1951)Cecilie von Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1886-1954)Germany
Poland
Denmark
France
United Kingdom
Sweden
Russia
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Austria
Latvia
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Italy
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Luise Margarete von Preußen (1860-1917)Friedrich Karl von Preußen (1828-1885)Maria Anna von Anhalt-Dessau (1837-1906)Germany
Sweden
Russia
France
United Kingdom
Denmark
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Poland
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantium
Italy
Byzantine Empire
Latvia
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Peter II of Yugoslavia (1923-1970)Alexander I of Yugoslavia (1888-1934)Marie of Romania (1900-1961)Germany
United Kingdom
Sweden
Denmark
France
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Russia
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Czech Republic
Hungary
Latvia
Poland
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Portugal
Switzerland
Byzantium
Italy
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Brazil
Czechoslovakia
Turkey
George Henry Hubert Lascelles, 7th Earl of Harewood (1923)Henry Lascelles, 6th Earl of Harewood (1882-1947)Mary Alexandra Victoria, Princess Royal (1897-1965)United Kingdom
Denmark
Germany
Scotland
England
France
Belgium
Spain
Sweden
Croatia
Poland
Romania
Russia
Ukraine
Israel
Portugal
Barbados
Netherlands
Czech Republic
Hungary
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Latvia
Bohemia
Italy
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Ireland
Turkey
Mary Fleur Mount (1934)William Malcolm Mount, 2nd Baronet (1904-1993)Elizabeth Nance Llewellyn (1904)United Kingdom
France
Germany
England
Russia
Ukraine
Spain
Portugal
Belgium
Hungary
Byzantium
Ireland
Israel
Netherlands
Belarus
Byzantine Empire
Italy
Turkey
Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (1921)Andrew of Greece and Denmark (1882-1944)Alice Mountbatten (1885-1969)Greece
United Kingdom
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Alice Mountbatten (1885-1969)Ludwig von Battenberg (1854-1921)Viktoria von Hessen und bei Rhein (1863-1950)Germany
Poland
United Kingdom
Sweden
Denmark
France
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Netherlands
Latvia
Russia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Belarus
Ukraine
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Italy
Portugal
Byzantium
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Andrew, Duke of York (1960)Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (1921)Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (1926)Greece
United Kingdom
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Anne, Princess Royal (1950)Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (1921)Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (1926)Greece
United Kingdom
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Charlotte Mountbatten-Windsor (2015)William Mountbatten-Windsor (1982)Catherine Elizabeth Middleton (1982)United Kingdom
France
Greece
Germany
England
Russia
Ukraine
Belgium
Spain
Ireland
Portugal
Byzantium
Netherlands
Israel
Hungary
Barbados
Denmark
Scotland
Italy
Czechoslovakia
Austria
Poland
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Slovenia
United States
Sweden
Geneva
Latvia
Byzantine Empire
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Edward, Earl of Wessex (1964)Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (1921)Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (1926)Greece
United Kingdom
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
George Mountbatten-Windsor (2013)William Mountbatten-Windsor (1982)Catherine Elizabeth Middleton (1982)United Kingdom
France
Greece
Germany
England
Russia
Ukraine
Belgium
Spain
Ireland
Portugal
Byzantium
Netherlands
Israel
Hungary
Barbados
Denmark
Scotland
Italy
Czechoslovakia
Austria
Poland
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Slovenia
United States
Sweden
Geneva
Latvia
Byzantine Empire
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
William Mountbatten-Windsor (1982)Charles Philip Arthur George Windsor (1948)Diana Frances Spencer, Princess of Wales (1961-1997)United Kingdom
Greece
Ireland
France
Barbados
Denmark
Scotland
England
Germany
Belgium
Spain
Italy
Russia
Ukraine
Netherlands
Czechoslovakia
Israel
Portugal
Hungary
Austria
Poland
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
United States
Sweden
Geneva
Latvia
Byzantine Empire
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
James Robert Bruce Ogilvy (1964)Angus James Bruce Ogilvy (1928-2004)Alexandra of Kent (1936-)United Kingdom
Greece
Denmark
Germany
Scotland
England
France
Belgium
Spain
Sweden
Poland
Netherlands
Russia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Italy
Portugal
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Croatia
Romania
Ireland
Turkey
Anne-Marie of Denmark (1946-)Frederick IX of Denmark (1899-1972)Ingrid of Sweden (1910-2000)Denmark
Sweden
Germany
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Italy
Russia
Netherlands
Latvia
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Belarus
Ukraine
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Geneva
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Frederick IX of Denmark (1899-1972)Christian X of Denmark (1870-1947)Alexandrine von Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1879-1952)Denmark
Sweden
Germany
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Italy
Russia
Netherlands
Latvia
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Belarus
Ukraine
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Geneva
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Harald V of Norway (1937-)Olav V of Norway (1903-1991)Märtha of Sweden (1901-1954)United Kingdom
Sweden
Denmark
Germany
Poland
France
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Russia
Italy
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Geneva
Belarus
Ukraine
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantium
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Margrethe II of Denmark (1940-)Frederick IX of Denmark (1899-1972)Ingrid of Sweden (1910-2000)Denmark
Sweden
Germany
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Italy
Russia
Netherlands
Latvia
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Belarus
Ukraine
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Switzerland
Geneva
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Portugal
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Marina of Greece and Denmark (1906-1968)Nicholas of Greece and Denmark (1872-1938)Elena Vladimirovna of Russia (1882-1957)Greece
Russia
Germany
Sweden
Denmark
France
United Kingdom
Poland
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Austria
Lithuania
Bohemia
Geneva
Switzerland
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Sophia of Greece (1938-)Paul of Greece (1901-1964)Friederike von Hannover (1917-1981)Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Belarus
Ukraine
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Isla Elizabeth Phillips (2012)Peter Mark Andrew Phillips (1977)Autumn Patricia Kelly (1978)United Kingdom
Canada
Greece
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Peter Mark Andrew Phillips (1977)Mark Anthony Peter Phillips (1948)Anne, Princess Royal (1950)United Kingdom
Greece
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Savannah Anne Kathleen Phillips (2010)Peter Mark Andrew Phillips (1977)Autumn Patricia Kelly (1978)United Kingdom
Canada
Greece
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Zara Anne Elizabeth Phillips (1981)Mark Anthony Peter Phillips (1948)Anne, Princess Royal (1950)United Kingdom
Greece
Denmark
Russia
Germany
Poland
France
Sweden
Scotland
England
Belgium
Spain
Czech Republic
Hungary
Netherlands
Geneva
Austria
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Bohemia
Byzantium
Italy
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Croatia
Romania
Turkey
Diana Frances Spencer, Princess of Wales (1961-1997)Edward John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer (1924-1992)Frances Ruth Burke Roche (1936-2004)United Kingdom
Ireland
France
Barbados
Denmark
Scotland
England
Germany
Belgium
Spain
Italy
Russia
Ukraine
Netherlands
Czechoslovakia
Israel
Portugal
Hungary
Austria
Poland
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
United States
Byzantine Empire
Turkey
Friederike von Hannover (1917-1981)Ernst August III. von Hannover (1887-1953)Viktoria Luise von Preußen (1892-1980)United Kingdom
Germany
Denmark
Scotland
England
France
Belgium
Spain
Sweden
Poland
Russia
Netherlands
Austria
Belarus
Ukraine
Lithuania
Bohemia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Geneva
Latvia
Switzerland
Portugal
Italy
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantium
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Leopold III of Belgium (1901-1983)Albert I of Belgium (1875-1934)Elisabeth Gabriele in Bayern (1876-1965)Belgium
Germany
Sweden
France
United Kingdom
Spain
Italy
Russia
Ukraine
Denmark
Scotland
England
Austria
Portugal
Hungary
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Poland
Belarus
Lithuania
Bohemia
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Israel
Byzantine Empire
Ireland
Turkey
Albert II of Belgium (1934-)Leopold III of Belgium (1901-1983)Astrid of Sweden (1905-1935)Belgium
Sweden
Russia
Germany
Denmark
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Spain
Italy
Ukraine
Scotland
England
Austria
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Portugal
Belarus
Lithuania
Bohemia
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Geneva
Israel
Byzantine Empire
Ireland
Turkey
Baudouin of Belgium (1930-1993)Leopold III of Belgium (1901-1983)Astrid of Sweden (1905-1935)Belgium
Sweden
Russia
Germany
Denmark
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Italy
Spain
Scotland
England
Netherlands
Ukraine
Austria
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Portugal
Belarus
Lithuania
Bohemia
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Geneva
Israel
Byzantine Empire
Ireland
Turkey
Bernhard III. von Sachsen-Meiningen (1851-1928)Georg II. von Sachsen-Meiningen (1826-1914)Charlotte von Preußen (1831-1855)Germany
France
United Kingdom
Poland
Austria
Sweden
Russia
Denmark
Czech Republic
Spain
Hungary
Belgium
Scotland
England
Netherlands
Switzerland
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Latvia
Byzantium
Italy
Bohemia
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Byzantine Empire
Israel
Ireland
Turkey
Joséphine-Charlotte of Belgium (1927-2005)Leopold III of Belgium (1901-1983)Astrid of Sweden (1905-1935)Belgium
Sweden
Russia
Germany
Denmark
Poland
United Kingdom
France
Spain
Italy
Ukraine
Scotland
England
Netherlands
Austria
Latvia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Portugal
Belarus
Lithuania
Bohemia
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Geneva
Israel
Byzantine Empire
Ireland
Turkey
Marie-José of Belgium (1906-2001)Albert I of Belgium (1875-1934)Elisabeth Gabriele in Bayern (1876-1965)Belgium
Germany
Sweden
France
United Kingdom
Spain
Italy
Russia
Ukraine
Denmark
Scotland
England
Austria
Portugal
Hungary
Netherlands
Latvia
Czech Republic
Poland
Belarus
Lithuania
Bohemia
Czechoslovakia
Switzerland
Byzantium
Slovakia
Slovenia
Israel
Byzantine Empire
Ireland
Turkey
... further results


Small criticism. Byzantium, like Bohemia and England and Prussia, for example, is not a current nation and I suspect that it's not even a current subdivision of a nation (or, if it is, it may have very different boundaries from the mediaeval one and therefore possibly be wrong). I don't mind us trying to move towards assigning events to the current names of former places but I think we should initially encourage people to follow the basic standards until such alternatives are well established. The "former places" problem can lead to absurdities like the people who were born in Alsace and never moved from the same village but will be programmatically determined to have migrated from France to Germany or vice versa depending on when they were born. And the other problem of often not being able to assign a historic nation to an event if you don't know its date (e.g. "c1870" in Alsace (village known with certainty, but which nation?)). Closer to the home of many of you guys: for states not nations but the same idea: "c1865" (locality or county now definitely in WV) - was that in WV or VA when it happened? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:02, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

False resultsEdit

Anyone who made more than one distinct migration in life will be given a false result by the birth/death routine. My father's parents migrated from the UK to New Zealand as children. If one of them had died while on holiday or business in some other country years later, they would get a false reading.

What we really need is to push ahead with some more of the data processing that User:Phlox started, which many of us see evidence of, every time we add a new person using SMW: {{showfacts journeys}} is probably almost ready to be implemented; see its coding: http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Showfacts_journeys?action=edit. Users will be able to specify actual migrations and have them display correctly.

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 02:50, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

ResidencesEdit

A related matter is the proposed development of {{Showfacts residences}}. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 23:43, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

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