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|Offspring of Geoffrey la Zouche and Hawise de Fergant|
|Alan la Zouche (c1157-1190)||<year not a number> Rohan, Bretagne, France||<year not a number> Ashby, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom|| Alice de Belmeis (c1150-)|
Second child of Duke Alain IV & his second wife was HAVISE de Bretagne, who "m (1110, divorced) BAUDOUIN de Flandre, son of ROBERT II Count of Flanders & his wife Clémence de Bourgogne [Comté] (1093-Boulers 17 Jun 1119, bur Saint Bertin). He succeeded his father in 1111 as BAUDOUIN VII Count of Flanders. "
Third was "GEOFFROY "le Roux" de Bretagne (-Jerusalem 1116)".
An illegitimate son of Duke Alain may be relevant to British genealogy: "BRIEN [FitzAlan] [FitzCount] ([1090/1100]-after [1141/42]). The primary source which confirms that he was the son of Alain IV Duke of Brittany has not yet been identified. According to the Complete Peerage, Brien FitzCount was the son of Alain "le Noir" de Penthièvre Lord of Richmond (who died in 1146) and his wife Berthe daughter of Conan III Duke of Brittany, but this is impossible from a chronological point of view. " So there. Was he Lord of Abergavenny? He gets 20-odd lines of discussion, which concludes that he probably had no heirs.