John Warren (1585-1667)

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John Warren (1585-1667) Early American Immigrant inspite of being the oldest son and gaining a good sized inheritance just a few earliers. It appears he left England because of dispute with the church. See his bio.

He was an important figure in the settlement of Watertown, and has been extensively studied. He was in Watertown by 1630, presumably having come to New England with his wife and children.

Contents 1 Vital Statistics 2 Biography 3 Immigration to America 4 Children of John Warren and Margaret Bayley 5 Reference Sources 6 The Will of John Warren 7 Famous Descendants

[edit] Vital Statistics

• Warenne Family Ancestry
• Son of John Warren, The Middle 1555- (1555-1613) of Nayland, England - m. Elizabeth Scarlett, 4 Oct 1584.
• 1585-May-01 : Birth at Warren Estate -  Nayland, Suffolk Co, England
• 1615 (about) : Marriage to Margaret Bayly (1587-1662) - in England.
• 1629 : Visitation of Nayland (See below)
• 1630 : Immigration to American with Governor Winthrop in the ship Arabella.
• 1631-May-18 : Took Freeman's Oath at Watertown.
• 1667-Dec-13 : Died at Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA.

[edit] Biography

The Warren Family had lived in Nayland, Suffolk Co, UK for many generations for John and his family sailed for America.

Born in Nayland, England and came from Hayland to Boston with Governor Winthrop in the ship Arabella. He arrived at Salem, June 12, 1630 and went to first Charlestown and then on to Watertown. There he took the Freeman's Oath on May 18, 1631 / was Selectman (1636-1640) and on committee of highways. He sympathized with the Quackers and at odds with the Puritans.

In the 1629 Visitation of Nayland, Archdeaconry of Sudbury, Diocese of Norwich, John Warren was the first in a list of seven men from that parish who were presented "for not kneeling at the communion", a common Puritan offense.

By about 1615, he married Margaret Bayley, widow of William Fowle and daughter of William Bayly and Ann (____). Margaret was born about 1587 in Westbury, Gloucestershire. In 1630, John and Margaret were among those who joined the exodus to America. They settled in Watertown, Massachusetts where John was made freeman May 18, 1631.

John didn't care much for church, here, either. Even though he was a member of the Watertown Puritan church, he was frequently cited for failing to attend public worship. John Coolidge and John Whitney testified that John Warren and Thomas Arnold "did absent themselves from the public ordinances, more than 4 times before their presentment". Mr. Jeremiah Norcross and David Fiske deposed in court that John Warren and Thomas Arnold had absented themselves from the public ordinances on the Lord's Days both at Watertown and elsewhere. John pleaded that he had been absent elsewhere on six of the Sabbaths in question, but on April 4, 1654, he was still fined 5s. for each absence: 5 shillings = 3 pounds and 10 shillings. One genealogist speculates that John was a Baptist. He was certainly sympathetic to Quakers. On March 14, 1658/9, John Warren was warned for not attending public worship, "but old Warren is not to be found in town." On May 27, 1661 the houses of "old Warren and Goodman [William] Hammond" were ordered to be searched for Quakers. Despite his lack of conviction for the established church and his leanings toward the Quaker faith, John never gave up or lost his church membership. He may have kept his membership to avoid losing some privileges such as voting, etc.

John was chosen Watertown selectman on [November?] 30, 1635 and December 6, 1639. He and Abraham Browne were appointed to lay out highways and see that they were repaired, November 14, 1635 and on a committee to divide land, January 10, 1647/8.

In the grants of Beaverbrook Plowlands and Remote Meadows John Warren received thirteen acres, but his immediate family at this time comprised six individuals (himself, wife and four children); this implies wealth well above the average, and this is borne out by the size of his homestall and Farm grants. His homestall of twelve acres in 1642 was bounded west by highway, east by William Hammond, north by John Biscoe, and south by Isaac Sterne. In 1654 John Warren Sr. gave Hugh Mason six pounds of peas and wheat and nine pounds of powder for the town so that Mason would make fireworks at the general training in Cambridge. John was granted sixty acres in Great Dividend, July 25, 1636; thirteen acres in Beaverbrook Plowlands, February 28, 1637/8; thirteen acres in Remote Meadows, June 26, 1637; and a 162 acre Farm, May 10, 1642.

In the Inventory of Grants John Warren held ten parcels; homestall of twelve acres; nine acres of upland; three acres of meadow; thirteen acres of plowland in the Further Plain; thirteen acres of meadow in the Remote Meadows; sixteen acres and a half of upland beyond the Further Plain; sixty acres of upland in the Great Dividend; one acre and a half of meadow in Ward's Meadow; one acre and a half of meadow near the Little Plain; and two acres of marsh. In the Composite Inventory he held eight parcels: homestall of twelve acres; nine acres of upland; three acres of meadow; thirteen acres of plowland in the Further Plain; thirteen acres of meadow in the Remote Meadows; sixteen acres and a half of upland beyond the Further Plain; sixty acres of upland in the Great Dividend; and a Farm of one hundred sixty-two acres. On December 30, 1662, the town of Watertown ordered that a ten or twelve acre parcel of land be laid out to Daniel Warren "in satisfaction of some land that John Warren his father bought of the town."

[edit] Immigration to America

Source: GENEALOGIES of the FAMILIES & DESCENDANTS of the EARLY SETTLERS OF WATERTOWN, MASSACHUSETTS. by Henry Bond, MD

The master passenger list for Gen Winthrops fleet of 11 ships of immigrants includes a listing for Warren, John & Margaret.

• http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/neng_winthrop.shtml
• Immigrant Ships To America/First Families/Winthrop Fleet

John Warren 1585-1667 + Margaret possibly Bayly s/o John Warren 1555-1613 & Elizabeth Scarlett s/o John Warren 1525-1576 + Unknown married 3 times s/o Robert Warren 1485-1544 + Margarette

John Warren 1631 census Massachusetts Colony enumeration list Freeman List 1645 census same

John Warren came to America in 1630, aged 45; settled in Wat; was adm. freeman, May 18,1631; was Selectman, 1636 to 40. In 1635 he and Abraham Browne were appointed to lay out all highways, and to see that they were repaired. His homestall lot of 12 acres, in 1642, was bounded W. by highway, E by William Hammond, N by John Biscoe, S by Isaac Sterne. He also then owned 7 other lots, amounting to about 176 acres. Oct, 1651 he and Thomas Arnold, were each fined 30s for an offence against the laws concerning baptism. Mar 14, 1658-9, he was to be warned for not attending public worship; but "old Warren is not to be found in town". Ap 4, 1654 he was fined for neglect of public worship, 14 Sabbaths, each 5s=3,10s. May 27, 1661 the houses of "Old Warren and Goodman Hammond" were ordered to be searched for Quakers. His wife Margaret d Nov 6-1662 and he d Dec, 13, 1667 aged 82. His Will dated Nov 30 proved Dec, 17, 1667 mentions the following children probably all born in England

John Warren 1. John born 1622; adm freeman, May 18, 1645 2. Mary, m Oct. 30, 1642, John Bigelow (Bigelow, 1) 3. Daniel b 1628, look oath of fidelity, 1652 4. Elizabeth, m about 1654, James Knapp (Knapp, 4)

Source The Winthrop Fleet of 1630 & Planters of the Commonwealth by Charles Edward Banks books

John Warren arrived in 6-12-1630 with Sir John Sastonsall his age about 45 years his first wife was Sarah, they had no issue

He was a Baptist per the book The Great Migration begins by Robert Charles Anderson

John Warren become a fellow passenger with General Winthop on the Arabella & arrived at Salem near Boston 6-12-1630 took the oath of Freeman at Boston 1631

He is presumably the 19th generation descent of Rollo the Danish Knight when invaded France in that century and also know as the founder of the Dukes of Normandy. This lineage goes back to the death of William de Warenne in 1088 the first Earl of Normandy.

Winthrop Fleet of 1630 p95 shows he died 13 (10) 1667 W wife Margaret died 11-6-1662

[edit] Children of John Warren and Margaret Bayley

• John Warren 1622A - b. 1622 in England, freeman 18 May 1645
• Mary Warren -1624A - b. in England and m., 30 Oct 1642. Mary was bap. Sep. 12, 1624, Nayland, Suffolk, England; d. Oct. 19, 1691, Watertown, MA
• Daniel Warren 1628A - b. 1628 in England and sailed with parents to America.
• Elizabeth Warren 1630A - b. in England m. James Knapp, 1654.

[edit] Reference Sources

• Source-Google Books: Historic Homes and Places and Genealogical and Personal Memors relating to the Families of Middlesex County, Massachusetts, Vol III, pg 1049-50.
• Source-Google Books: Historic Homes, Institutions, Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worcester County Massachussetts, Vol II - Pg 251-253.

• See also the Will of John Warren - below.

[edit] The Will of John Warren

John died at Watertown December 13, 1667, aged 82. In his will, dated November 30, 1667 and proved December 16, 1667, John Warren Sr. "being aged & weake in body" bequeathed to "my son Daniell Warren the p[ar]cell of land that he now lives on being about the quantity of sixteen acres with all the apurtenances"; to "my son John Warren & my son Daniel Warren my dividend and all my remote meadow with another p[ar]cell of remote land...in Watertown...[to] my two sons equally"; to "my son Daniell Warren my best flock bed with my green rug...and two of my four pewter platters"; to "my daughter-in-law Mary Warren wife to my son Daniell one pewter porringer"; to "my daughter Mary Begalow a p[ar]cell of remote land being the quantity of 16 acres...already in her possession"; to "my duaghter Mary Begalow one small pewter dish"; to "my daughter Elizabeth Knape plow land lying on the further plain in Watertown w[hi]ch her husband James Knape hath formerly been possessed of"; to "my aforesaid daughter Elizebeth a book called the plaine man's pathway to heaven"; to "my grandchild Daniel Warren Son to my son Daniell Warren one of my cows"; to "my grandchild Mary Begalow a lined box that was my wife's"; to "Michael Bloyse daughter to Richard Bloyse deceased one pewter plate"; to "all of my grand children to each of them the sum of 2s. 6d."; residue "to my beloved son John Warren making and ordaining him my whole and sole executor." The inventory of the estate of "John Warren Senior late deceased of Watertown" was taken 13 Dec 1667 and was untotaled, but included £123 in real estate: "one tenement of houses and ten acres of upland and three acres of meadow £60"; "sixteen acres of waste land £8"; "sixty acres of divident land £15"; "thirteen acres of meadow £10"; "farm land one hundred and fifty acres #30." Inventory of the estate was taken December 16, 1667 by John Coolidge, Henry Bright, and Henry Freeman and amounted to £167.4.0. Among the interesting things found in his inventory were "one musket, one sword, one halberd," valued under 15s. and "one silver spoon, two Bibles and other books", valued at £1 10.

[edit] Famous Descendants

Famous Descendants of John Warren:

• Lucille BALL (1911-1989)

Television producer, comedienne, and actress, married Desiderio Alberto 'Desi' ARNAZ III (1917-1986) and Gary MORTON.

• • Henry Durrell BALL (1887-1915) and Desiree Evelyn HUNT (1892-1977) [see below]
  • Jasper Clinton BALL (1852-1933) and Nellie Rebecca DURRELL (b. 1856) [see below]
  • Clinton Manross BALL (1817-1893) and Cynthia DALE (1823-1900)
  • Isaac BALL (1787-1865) and Sally MANROSS (17921853) [see below]
  • Isaac BALL (1747-1790) and Hannah CUMMINGS (b. 1757)
  • Isaac BALL b: (d. 1789) and Rachel HOWE (1710-1779)
  • Josiah HOWE (1678-1766) and Sarah BIGELOW (1681-1713)
  • Samuel BIGELOW (1653-c1731) and Mary FLAGG (1657-1720)
  • John BIGELOW (1617-1703) and Mary WARREN (1624-1691)
  • John WARREN (1585-1667)and Margaret BAYLY (1662)

• George Herbert Walker BUSH (b. 1924)

41st U. S. President, Vice President, Representative, U.N. Ambassador, C.I.A. Director, and oil company executive, married Barbara PIERCE (b. 1925), 38th First Lady. [Autograph]

• • Sen. Prescott Sheldon BUSH (1895-1972) and Dorothy WALKER (1901-1992)
  • Samuel Prescott BUSH (1863-1948) and Flora SHELDON (1872-1920)
  • Harriet Eleanor FAY (1829-1924) and Rev. James Smith BUSH (1825-1889)
  • Samuel Howard FAY (1804-1847) and Susan SHELLMAN (1808-1887)
  • Samuel Prescott Phillips FAY (1778-1856) and Harriet HOWARD (1782-1847)
  • Jonathan FAY, Jr. (1752-1811) and Lucy PRESCOTT (1757-1792)
  • Jonathan FAY (1724-1800) and Joanna PHILLIPS (1729-1788)
  • John Fay III (1700-1732) and Hannah CHILD (c1700-1788)
  • John CHILD (b. 1669) and Hannah FRENCH (1676-1766)
  • Mary WARREN (1651-1764) and John CHILD (1636-1676)
  • Daniel WARREN (b. 1627) and Mary BARRON (d. 1716)
  • John WARREN (1585-1667) and Margaret (d. 1662)

• James Abram GARFIELD (1831-1881)

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• • Abraham GARFIELD (1799-1833) and Eliza BALLOU (b. 1801) [see below]
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  • Samuel BIGELOW (1653-1731) and Mary FLAGG (1658-1720)
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  • John WARREN (1585-1667) and Margaret (d. 1662)

• Vincent Leonard PRICE (1911-1993),

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• • Vincent Leonard PRICE and Marguerite Cobb WILLCOX (b. 1874)
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• Clarissa Harlowe 'Clara' BARTON (1821-1912)

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• • Stephen BARTON, Jr. and Sarah STONE
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  • John WARREN (1585-1667) and Margaret (d. 1662)

• Frank Nelson DOUBLEDAY (1862-1934)

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• • William Edwards DOUBLEDAY (b. 1823) and Ellen Maria DICKINSON (b. 1830)
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• Carole LOMBARD (1908-1942)

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  • Sarah FISKE (b. 1685) & John HASTINGS, Jr.
  • Mary WARREN (1651-1734) & Nathaniel FISKE (1653-1735)
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  • John WARREN (1585-1667) & Margaret (d. 1662)

• Abbott Lawrence LOWELL (1856-1943)

President of Harvard University (1909-1933), political science educator, author and attorney, married 1879 Anna Parker LOWELL. Brother of Amy LOWELL and Percival LOWELL.

Brother - Percival Lowell (1855-1916) - Astronomer, builder of Lowell Observatory, author and predictor of the discovery of Pluto (by C. W. TOMBAUGH in Jan. 1930, not W. E. DISNEY in Aug. 1930). Augustus LOWELL and Katherine Bigelow LAWRENCE (b. 1832) (1880 US Census at Brookline MA). Hon. Abbott LAWRENCE (1792-1855) and Katharine BIGELOW (1793-1860) Timothy BIGELOW (1767-1821) and Lucy PRESCOTT (d. 1852) Col. Timothy BIGELOW (1739-1790) and Anna ANDREWS (1747-1809) Daniel BIGELOW (1697-c1789) and Elizabeth WHITNEY Joshua BIGELOW (1655-1745) and Elizabeth FLAGG (1657-1729) John BIGELOW (1617-1703) and Mary WARREN (1624-1691) John WARREN (1585-1667) and Margaret (d. 1662)

• Lucy STONE (1818-1893)

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• Raquel WELCH [Jo Raquel TEJADA] (b. 1940)

Entertainer noted primarily for her physical attributes, with film, stage and television roles. Married first James (1958-1961) WELCH, second (1967-1972) Patrick CURTIS, third (1980-1990) Andre WEINFELD, and fourth (1999) Richard PALMER. Armando Carlos TEJADA-URQUIZO (1911-1976) and Josephine Sarah HALL (1909-2000) Emery Stanford HALL (1869-1939) and Clara Louise ADAMS (b. 1871) Justin Smith HALL (b. 1840) and Sarah Mehitable STANFORD (b. 1845) Sarah Mehitable STANFORD (b. 1845) and Justin Smith HALL (b. 1840) Emery STANFORD (1812-1885) and Mary Lydia ELLIOTT (1819-1856) Eunice MORTON (1790-1847) and Jonathan STANFORD (1784-1845) Hannah DEXTER (1770-1838) and Benjamin MORTON (b. 1763) Benjamin DEXTER (1747-1824) and Hannah STONE (1746-1832) Simeon STONE (1720-1785) and Hannah KENDALL (1720-1801) Abiel BIGELOW (b. 1693) and Jonathan STONE (b. 1690) Daniel BIGELOW (1650-c1715) and Abiel PRATT (b. 1658) John BIGELOW (1616-1703) and Mary WARREN (c1624-1691) John WARREN (1585-1667) and Margaret (d. 1662)

• Eli WHITNEY (1765-1825)

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