- ("Stoyan" redirects here.)
One of the sources for checking Project Charlemagne is Herbert Stoyan's "complete list of the first 13 generations (according to E. Brandenburg) and later generations"
Introduction[]
The site is a searchable database. Offers four search methods:
- General access
- Name based access
- Index
- Time based access
Search by multiple criteria[]
By name (even part of a name), Location, Year, and Range of years; ten boxes have space for name, title, date and place of birth and death, and spouse name.
Collecting all people with a given name[]
"Note: Names are in the original languages (german, french, and english)"
Sorted Index of Persons[]
"You get the index in pieces of 100 people." - starting from any specified surname or first name
Time Search[]
"The search is currently restricted to the first 8 successor generations of Charlemagne....". Offers English, French, Dutch, German, Polish, Spanish. Needs considerable care: a search purportedly for "before 900" returned a list of people who died in 1900. Changing to "0900" produced a blank screen. Changing to "1000" produced a list of nine people, all of whom had "1000" as part of their death date:
- Ethelfleda ? 945-1000 - first wife of Edgar, King of England; mother of Edward (II) of England, several centuries before the official Edward II
- Elfrida of Devon 945-1000 - another wife of Edgar; no parentage shown
- Harald Olavsson 999-1000 - son of Olav (below)
- Otto v.Warcq 9??-1000/1013 - Graf; no parentage shown; father of Ludwig I. v.Chiny (?-28.9.1025/1028)
- Aribo I. v.Bayern v.940-13.2.1000/1020 - Pfalzgraf; shows father, spouse, and seven children
- Giselbert v.Roucy [c.950,955-19.4.[991,c.1000]] - Graf; shows parents and three children
- Heinrich v.Speyer c.970-28.(3/9).[990,1000 ] - Graf; shows parents, spouse, and two children
- Olav (Tryggvesson) av Norge 968?-9.9.(1000?) - King
- Detmar v.Harthofen c.930-n.1000 - parents and four partners shown
Early generations[]
- UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Gen 2: 20[]
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http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/cgi-bin/stoyan/l1/LANG=engl/INDEX=I200460 is Kaiser Karl (Charlemagne), with twelve unions listed, producing eighteen named children and two unnamed children (with their mothers also unnamed). The following are shown to have children of their own:
- Mother Hildegard v.Alemannien
- Pippin König v.Italien (?.4.773-8.7.810) 6 children but only one grandchild
- Rotrud (775-8.6.810) 1 child, who had no children
- Ludwig I. ((16.4./?.8.)778-20.6.840) 9 children
- Berta (779/780-n.829?) 2 children, who had no children
- [http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/cgi-bin/stoyan/l1/LANG=engl/INDEX=I200488 Hiltrud (c.787-n.800) 1 child, who had no children
- Mother unknown #11
- Unnamed child 1 child, Bernhard, childless
- Mother unknown #12
- Unnamed child 1 Unnamed child, who had a child
Gen 3: 21[]
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The following are shown to have children of their own:
- Father Pippin König v.Italien (?.4.773-8.7.810)
- Alpais (c.794-23.7.(n.851)) 3 children
- Bernhard v.Italien (c.797-17.4.818) 1 child
- Father Ludwig I. ((16.4./?.8.)778-20.6.840)
- Lothar I. (795-29.9.855) 9 children
- Pippin I. d'Aquitaine (c.803-13.12.838) 2 children
- Rotrud (c.800-n.841) 3 children
- Ludwig II. v.Ostfrankenreich (c.806-28.8.876) 7 children
- Gisela (c.820-n.1.7.874) 10 children
- Karl II. (13.6.823-6.10.877) 14 children
- Parent unnamed
- Unnamed child of KdG's 12th union 1 child, Franco Bischof v.L�ttich, childless
Gen 4: 50[]
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The following are shown to have children of their own:
- Father Bernhard v.Italien (c.797-17.4.818)
- Pippin ? (c.815-n.840) 3 children
Gen 5:[]
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Gen 6:[]
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Gen 7:[]
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Gen 8:[]
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Gen 9:[]
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Gen 10:[]
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Gen 11:[]
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Gen 12:[]
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Gen 13:[]
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